tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6575743422154846162.post7639644445071884163..comments2023-10-18T22:55:42.925+13:00Comments on The Quiet Life: Sharing the loveUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6575743422154846162.post-31233427224133844302009-09-23T06:56:37.590+12:002009-09-23T06:56:37.590+12:00Hi billy and welcome. I agree that's shocking,...Hi billy and welcome. I agree that's shocking, at least Patricia could speak the language I guess. I think it's a horrible policy and one that Australians should stand against - it's unfair.Louhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14519427492100090401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6575743422154846162.post-69713440441026196902009-09-23T03:52:50.184+12:002009-09-23T03:52:50.184+12:00It's only in the last few years that the Austr...It's only in the last few years that the Australian government has applied this policy. She got it easier than the poor "Swedish" and "Serbian" guys - heroin addicts for decades after emigrating as babies. Both got deported without even being able to speak the language of their "home" country.billyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17766254524955556469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6575743422154846162.post-68739301021061820282009-09-21T05:25:57.935+12:002009-09-21T05:25:57.935+12:00She's on the loose. All jail time was served i...She's on the loose. All jail time was served in Australia so she gets a fresh start here. I hope for her sake she can make it work for her.Louhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14519427492100090401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6575743422154846162.post-18694862759099584992009-09-21T04:15:25.489+12:002009-09-21T04:15:25.489+12:00So....what now? I mean, she's in jail in New Z...So....what now? I mean, she's in jail in New Zealand, right? And now, you guys have to foot the bill? Or, is she roaming the streets, looking for some new law she hasn't already broken? Yikes.kathrynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06152568985075401447noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6575743422154846162.post-59560645191000435732009-09-20T06:35:24.327+12:002009-09-20T06:35:24.327+12:00Thanks Lori for taking the time to comment again a...Thanks Lori for taking the time to comment again and I do understand what you're explaining to me. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I agree that if someone wants to immigrate and while they'e waiting through the residency period they commit crime, get rid of them. If though that person has lived in that country all their life then the problem belongs to that country.Louhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14519427492100090401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6575743422154846162.post-40847872335967374082009-09-20T03:43:25.915+12:002009-09-20T03:43:25.915+12:00Well Lou, to become a citizen of Canada you must m...Well Lou, to become a citizen of Canada you must meet the requirements, pass medical, criminal and knowledge tests. <br />An adult must have lived here for 3 years in the last 4 year period, children don't have to meet this requirement. <br /> You cannot become a citizen if you:<br /><br /> * have been convicted of an indictable (criminal) offence or an offence under the Citizenship Act in the three years before you apply<br /> * are currently charged with an indictable offence or an offence under the Citizenship Act<br /> * are in prison, on parole or on probation<br /> * are under a removal order (have been ordered by Canadian officials to leave Canada)<br /> * are under investigation for, are charged with, or have been convicted of a war crime or a crime against humanity or<br /> * have had your Canadian citizenship taken away in the past five years.<br /><br />If someone doesn't apply when they are eligible that doesn't mean the country in question has to keep them. <br />You cannot vote, you cannot claim a pension etc. Residence does not equal citizenship any more then parenting equals paternity.Lori Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10775116608698555225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6575743422154846162.post-74709507210355721402009-09-19T11:33:37.064+12:002009-09-19T11:33:37.064+12:00I assume JJ it was because they pretty much accept...I assume JJ it was because they pretty much accepted she was Australian and so they dealt with her until it reached a point where it became completely intolerable to them and they started to think a bit more laterally and look for a way out. <br /><br />This situation relates to my own family - my mum has never become a NZ citizen. She's been here 45 years here now but has never applied for formal recognition of her residency as she rightly or wrongly, sees that as being a slap in the face to Ireland. She's raised 4 kiwi kids and can't ever imagine living somewhere else. Is she a kiwi? Is she a kiwi until she does something antisocial? If she were to murder someone tomorrow would she be less a kiwi?<br /><br />My point is that just as Joanne stated, there must be a point where a country accepts that it must manage it's own problems. I don't know whether it's 20 years legal residence over the age of 18 or whether it's 20 years in total but there must come a point where the country of residence accepts that its problems are ITS problems and they can't be shunted off elsewhere because it's easier or cheaper.Louhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14519427492100090401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6575743422154846162.post-4338218323258370712009-09-19T10:41:09.011+12:002009-09-19T10:41:09.011+12:00What is confusing me here is, why did they wait so...What is confusing me here is, why did they wait so long to deport her. What I am saying is, I agree...she's been there too long to be considered a kiwi. This action should have been taken about 25 jail sentences ago.jadedjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16569736113526368917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6575743422154846162.post-35301281929161458642009-09-19T07:23:20.886+12:002009-09-19T07:23:20.886+12:00Lou there should be some sort of statute of limita...Lou there should be some sort of statute of limitations on leaving a country and being accepted into the new country. I hate that these rules are being abused by some countries just to crack down a few rotten eggs.<br />So now she is Aotearoa's problem - and that sucks.<br /><br />Back in 1996 my late husband was almost not allowed to leave NZ to come home to Canada - made no sense. After he was cleared to board the jet he made up his mind to get his Canadian Citizenship - and my son has both. But I promise if he ever moves to NZ he will be a good citizen.Joannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17563699438451685394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6575743422154846162.post-12975040306622991072009-09-19T04:58:19.261+12:002009-09-19T04:58:19.261+12:00Deportation to where Lori? I take it you're no...Deportation to where Lori? I take it you're not talking about 'official' Canadians? I think you've missed my point, it's not relevant about toughness or otherwise of courts - it's about when does someone become a Canadian or an Australian or a kiwi? After they've lived their whole life there or when they have the piece of paper? We are the product of our environment and our associations so surely being completely raised in a country makes you a product of that country?Louhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14519427492100090401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6575743422154846162.post-19480228270702073952009-09-19T01:13:08.900+12:002009-09-19T01:13:08.900+12:00So are you renting her a room?
Sounds like their ...So are you renting her a room? <br />Sounds like their courts are too lenient. Just like ours. People with rap sheets a mile long given probation again and again. <br />We let a ton of them stay here after horrendous crimes but finally the public has gone after the courts for deportations of these criminals.Lori Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10775116608698555225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6575743422154846162.post-42408634390131617272009-09-19T00:51:10.562+12:002009-09-19T00:51:10.562+12:00And it looks like the one little technicality is w...And it looks like the one little technicality is what got her sent, well, not 'home,' but back to where she was born.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15302478126147924237noreply@blogger.com